bill: jay carney said it is preposterous and inaccurate. what did you think of his reput ball. >> like most of the things jay carney says these days. insurance companies are out there talking to the customers to expand health care, play blah. when the white house puting a gag order on someone. it doesn't you have to be absolutely mute. it means you can't say things we don't want you to say. that is what the insurance companies are being forced to do. they're not allowed to say what is really going on. not allowed to give their own numbers what is happening. not allowed to defend themselves from this new campaign of demonization. bill: what would be your solution for them? the insurance companies could speak with one voice, could they not? >> i don't have a huge amount of sympathy for the insurance companies. they made this bed. they're lying in it. this is one. props with crony capitalism, when you get in bed with the government the government gets to call the shots. at the same time you know they esterday with obamaven more. in boston, tal